There were also the Vichy French and then there were Americans that gave state secretes to Russia. If you look you will always find. Sadly this is nothing new.

Israel’s long term future depends on successful collaboration with its neighbours. Israel does not have enough natural resources to stand on its own and America cannot feed and fund Israel for ever. Israel cannot continue as a Euro immigrant bubble which remains totally out of context with the region.

Essentially a type of Euro Zone or United States could be created in the area. Land resources and military of various Middle East nations could be shared and combined when possible. The unification of states has brought Europe’s war torn history into a peaceful era. The same unification principle could also be applied to the middle east and perhaps CNN article shows this could be possible.

What stands in the way of a United States of the Middle East? Well some odious Jewish racists believe God promised Israel to them and to them alone (Not really a sharing religious principle)
Arabs on the other hand resent Israel’s illegal military occupation which has caused conflict for half a century. So they can’t trust the Israelis.

But if anyone put forward the idea of a united Europe in 1944, society would have said this is impossible. Europe is at war and always has been. Nevertheless the facts are Europe is now united and when the price of war becomes too high, people will find alternatives ways forward. Currently in the Middle East the entire price of conflict has placed on the Palestinians’ shoulders. And Israel will not negotiate until a real threat to its existence appears. If American Governments really wanted peace in the Middle East they should put real pressure on Israel and then something positive would happen.

Anyway, at least this is one example of collaboration between cultural groups and it would be good to see more.

When you have billions of dollars to invest in people from neighboring nations to actively work for you in regards to reporting, translating, fighting, and spying on the residents of their home country, that pays for itself in times of external troubles.

America has been very slow to realize how effective Israel's extended payroll is on keeping them very well informed on any and all developments that occur in the Middle Eastern region.

A large part that is missing in this disclosure or topic however would be the extremely extensive effort by the Israeli forces to discover anyone that is a Islamic sympathizer or supporter within its ranks.

That must occur on many different levels within the Israeli training and deployment. The US Army does not appear to have extensive testing and training that is needed to uncover a large problem with a recruit or military member PRIOR to them committing a act of fratricide.

From a Bedouin's perspective, he has a point...What other range of options does a Bedouin Arab (have) in his occupied ancestral land?

He could roam the desert herding goats, gazing the midnight crackling fire, while his young inducing comfort shivering in their desert iceberg cave..Or, as he said, "receive benefits" by joining the Israeli army.

They seem to have found practical means earning their bread and butter (clever!).. Which in return gives them a sense of purpose (maybe?), accomplishment, secured salaries...And maintain pride in their heritage....This is interesting to see. Thanks. I am hungry for more..

Thank you Paula.
I hope is the first of many stories that will dispel the many misinformed, anti-Israel "popular beliefs".

Hope,

"bedouin occupied ancestral land"?

Bedouin traditionally roamed all lands of the ME, crossing all borders and never claiming statehood.
Some tribes were given states in the Gulf but otherwise by your logic, either all the ME is "occupied" Bedouin land or you are creating a controversy out of nothing.
These individuals should be an example to the world that there are still minority populations who can freely express their patriotism to their countries.

Hope

your ignorance is showin again and again and again:

"bedouin occupied ancestral land"

hahahahahaha

do you have any idea what a bedoin is? of course not.

Here, I looked it up for you, hope:

An Arab of any of the nomadic tribes of the Arabian, Syrian, Nubian, or Sahara deserts.

Do you know what nomadic means?

Look it up yourself

To: John A.

I have read many articles about the Mid-East conflict and have heard of many solutions. However, I also believe that unless all Mid-Eastern Countries form an alliance on economic, political and sharing of natural resources fronts, the conflicts of the region would never come to an end.

The Mid-East as it stands today has a relatively young and vibrant population and by forming an E.U type organization the entire region would stand to benefit immensely.

Thanks for your comments.

This is a story of enlightenment.....of how the individual mind freely should percieve it's own convictions....not those dictated by nationalistic sovereignty,... sequestered by stereotyping false allegiance,...is it wrong to follow your soul's heart....?

Johm A,

Are you living in a bubble or what???

"Israel’s long term future depends on successful collaboration with its neighbours" Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

Just exactly what natural resources does Israels' neighbors have that Israel can't live without ???

A Euro Zone in the ME !!!!!! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!! Not in your lifetime !!!!!

The Arabs can't even agree on anything between themselves !!!!! The Arab League is as dysfunctional as the UN !!!!

Are you for real ???? That's one of the most bizarre statements I've ever heard.

But it's really amazing that you think Israel can't survive without a working relationship with her neighbors--- Israel has the strongest and most prosperous economy in the entire middle east with exception of the UAE-– which is entirely due to oil-– nothing to with innovation, technology, medicine or manufacturing.

You're simply nothing more than uneducated whining fool who hates Jews and Israel at all costs and will go to any lengths to dispute their prosperity. Nothing more than hate and jealous rage !!!

Thanks Ari and welcome to the blog.

People should not be afraid to speak out against Israel. Pro Israelis will always make Anti Semitic slurs, but this is nothing less than the new form of McCarthysim!!

Previously if you challenged US authority, McCarthy would accuse you of being a communist. Currently if you challenge the Israeli lobby or Israel you will be accused of being anti Semitic. Both McCarthy and the Israeli lobby attack with such slurs as a way to dominate and control. As always freedom must be fought for and it is necessary for everyone to protect our freedom of speech and reject manipulative controlling agents like McCarthy or the Israeli lobby.

Israels illegal military occupation is wrong! Israels illegal settlement expansion is wrong! To say such things is not anti Semitic.

It took many years for Americans to find the courage to stand up against McCarthy's slurs. Now we wait for an American politician who has the courage to stand up against the anti Semitic slurs made by Israel and the Jewish lobby in America. If Israel is wrong, then it is wrong. Anti Semitic slurs have nothing to do with this.

Rector, thanks I did.

(Wikipedia)

"The Negev Bedouin (Arabic: بدو النقب‎,) are traditionally pastoral semi-nomadic Arab tribes indigenous to the Negev region in Israel, who hold close ties to the Bedouin of the Sinai Peninsula".

rector, Indigenous means originated..They (Arab tribes), originated in what (Wikipedia) describes as of today's modern day Israel.

"The first recorded settlement of Bedouin in the Negev/Naqab Desert dates back 7,000 years. The Bedouin of the Sinai peninsula migrated to and from the Negev repeatedly throughout their history."

They migrated (to and from) the Sinai peninsula..but seems to have originated in Ancient Palestine.

Hope,

Way to go Hope-- you've repeatedly discredited Wiki as a source of accurate and verifiable information-so now you cite their unverifiable dithers because it suits your and meets with your myopic views !! What a hoot

Arabs are descendants of the tribes of Arabia-from the Arabian Peninsula.

You know Arabs~~Arabia !!!!

Similar to Israelites~~Israel !!!

Funny how that works !!!!

Americans~~~~ Hmmm!!!~~~~~ now that just seems to follow a different system of logic because all Americans except for the Native Americans are from somewhere else !!!!! Imagine that !!!! But even the black population in the US refer to themselves as Afro Americans. They actually acknowledge their roots and their historical ties to the African continent.

Kind of like the the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians only because that's where they have lived in recent times. The big difference being-- they all refuse to acknowledge their origins from the tribes of Arabia-- yet they refer to themselves as Arabs>

Which is it ???

Is it that they realize if they acknowledge their Arabic origins- it totally blows their claim of Palestine being their ancestral homeland??

How Convenient !!!

hope

ancient palestine?

bullshit

there never was a palestine andf you know it

and as you already posted long ago, bedouins are "An Arab of any of the nomadic tribes of the Arabian, Syrian, Nubian, or Sahara deserts"

and nothing more.

Wow. Real Journalism. I didn't think CNN still did that on their own these days. I was expecting more politicized talking points regurgitated from the AP and was pleasantly surprised.

If you could do a lot more reports like these I might make CNN my primary news source again.

Hope,

Arabs are not indigenous to the "Negev region", but to Arabia.
Where does wikipedia get its information?
Note, the wiki entrant has been nominated to be checked for its neutrality.

miriam

you tell Hope what she herself proved on this blog

but she forgets.............

rector, Unlike you.. I dont fabricate what I write..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Bedouin

–"The Negev Bedouin (Arabic: بدو النقب‎,) are traditionally pastoral semi-nomadic Arab tribes indigenous to the Negev region in Israel, who hold close ties to the Bedouin of the Sinai Peninsula."

–"In the strictest sense, the Negev Bedouin are defined today as Arab nomads, who live by rearing livestock in the deserts of southern Israel."

–"As of 1951, the United Nations reported the expulsion of about 7,000 Negev Bedouin into neighbouring Jordan, the Gaza Strip and the Sinai."

–"Following the removal of the Bedouin from most of the Negev, Israeli erased the traditional Bedouin place names from official maps and actively discouraged their administrative use, replacing them with new Hebrew place names."

hOPE

YOU BROUGHT US THE PROOF BY A LINK THAT THE PALESTINIANS MIGRATED FROM THE ARAB PENINSULA, ERGO THEY ARE NOT FROM THE AREA

SO STOP YOUR FUTILE ATTEMPTS TO NEGATE THE VERY FACTS YOU YOURSELF PRESENTED

Hope,

There you go again-citing the scriptures of the great and wonderful Wiki !!!!

Yet whenever anyone else uses Wiki as a reference source you lambaste both Wiki and those who post the references-- calling them "worthless, inaccurate, unverifiable and lacking in facts".

So which is it ????

Looks like Wiki is OK as long as it suits your own agenda !!!!!

Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

But how about this for facts !!!!!!

The FACT is an ARAB is from ARABIA !!

The FACT is and ARAB is a descendant of the original TRIBES OF ARABIA

The FACT is the land referred to in modern times as PALESTINE is no in ARABIA!

The FACT is ISRAEL is not in ARABIA.

The FACT IS the true ancestral home of those who claim to be ARABS is ARABIA -- located on the ARABIAN PENINSULA !!!

Do you understand or are you still confused??

Read it over a few times-- it may eventually sink in !!

Hope,

Contributors to wikipedia are able to fabricate what they write, hence the stated comment about the neutrality of the piece you quote from.

The fact is, there are many nationalist Beduin who are supportive of Israel and are willing to serve the country.

CNN sometimes I read this blog, but I find the disproportional amount of blogs posted by Filipe to be negative and without interesting content.

Any chance CNN can request quality and not quantity i.e. a maximum of two blog comments per person per blog page. Perhaps this will force the likes of Filipe to think before he writes. Otherwise this blog will always degenerates into Filipe’s smug comments which are devoid of FACTS.

Angel, sorry you feel that way. It’s really hard to start a remotely intelligent debate when exchanging views with Filipe. As I don’t like to argue I will ignore Filipe’s rubbish from now on and debate with you. Let’s hope Filipe will allow us to have a healthy blog debate without polluting these pages with mindless Israeli propaganda.

Shame,

I have never quoted Wikipedia apart from the above comment that is printed above, but not part of, the article Hope is quoting from.

Sharon and the anti-Zionists,

No one has to apologise for being a Zionist.

The Jewish people have every right to self-determination in a national homeland that is their religious, historical and cultural land.

Denying that right is anti-semitism as defined by the EU.

I think Filipe's comments are spot on! He speaks the truth and provides facts and sources. He is more than a match for all the Islamic terrorist supporters whose lies pollute this and other blogs. What's the matter? Can't those who support the Palestinian terrorists who squat on Israeli land provide anything to support their evil cause other than their uninformed opinions?

I guess you need to resort to attacking him personally because you have no way to alter the facts or alter history – though you do try so hard.

Good job, Filipe! Thanks to you and Miriam for continuing to provide the truth. The world is not buying the Islamic terrorist agenda! The Palestinians have been exposed for what they really are – stupid puppets of Islamic terrorist regimes.

The Many faces of John A Professor Shame and his Anonymous tribe of crybabies.

If any of you clowns had anything of value to add, you wouldn't waste your time whining to CNN about those you don't happen to agree with.

Do none of you clowns have anything to contribute relative to the subject of the blog??

I didn't think so!!

The CNN moderator should double check the IP addresses and Email addresses of those who have nothing better to do than whine about others who actually participate on the subject matter.

You'll probably find they all originate form the same IP address-–

It's a little more than obvious-– Between 13:00 and 13:17 GMT-- we have Anonymous Friend, Robert, Darren, Bruce, Shame, Sharon, Peter and John A-all of them parroting each other without - ever having the ability to see the previous posting because of the delays between submit and post times.

What a fool !!!

Should we expect any less- Since you can't provide any real substance and basis to support your views-- just bash and belittle the opposition !!!!

Recess is over- time to back to class kids!!!

Barry have you read Filipe's blogs. There is no content to agree with. How can you describe zero content and a cocktail of insults as "spot on". Barry your attempt to cover up for Filipe is hilarious!

Nevertheless I repeat a question which I have asked Filipe for several days. So far he has failed to answer.

Filipe the question again:

In an adult world we can all recognize both Palestinians and Israelis have a claim to the land. Both have rights and both parties should be respected. With this in mind what adult minded solutions would Filipe propose to bring a fair and lasting peace to the Middle East?

Barry if you are now writing on Filipes behalf you may also answer the question.

If Israel agreed to withdraw to its 1967 borders and end its illegal occupation of Arabic land, this crises will end. Thats the only real solution and Israel can not ask for peace until it ends its military aggression and expansion of illegal settlements.

Filipe stop sniveling and start thinking of solutions. Grow up and respect people with alternative views. Work with people and stop fighting. If you and your Zionist friends can manage this, Israel will take a giant step towards receiving the respect it has lost.

Filipe you embarrass yourself again. Can you defend Israels position with thoughtful and constructive ideas or is that impossible for you to manage?

No more American tax aid to Israel and no more blood in the name of the promised land

Miriam as a European I can assure you that the EU and most developed nations support Palestine. America is Israels only ally, which is why America experienced 9/11. Its a case of what goes around comes around.

Miriam why do you think the EU is anti Zionist. The EU simply recognizes that Israel treats Palestinians with extreme prejudices. Miriam the world is not America and America becomes less important every decade. Perhaps Israel should consider its relations with the world before American power sinks into history?

"If Israel agreed to withdraw to its 1967 borders and end its illegal occupation of Arabic land, this crises will end. Thats the only real solution and Israel can not ask for peace until it ends its military aggression and expansion of illegal settlements.'

what a joke

Fact:

Between 1948 and 1967 the Arab terror against Israel in the pre-67 lines was severe

Fact:

The PLO was founded imn 1965, i.e before 1967

Fact:

Hams has ststed over and over and over again that even a return of israel to the pre-67 lines would not be any reason for Hamas to recognize Israel or Israel's right to exist. At most they would be willing to have a 10 year ceasefire to rearm.

So Shame, shame on you for spreading lies and falsifying your friends' positions

Shame,

The 1949 Armistice Line, which I assume is what you are refering to, were not borders but simply where armies were positioned when the cease-fire came into effect.

The Arabs did not want Israel within those lines, launching cross "border" terrorist and sniper attacks across those lines beween 1949 and 1967.
Those lines were indefensible for Israel as recognized by many nations at the time.

It is obvious that the crises will not end if Israel "withdraws" to the all Armistice Lines.

Egypt and Syria had troops amassed on their borders with Israel preparing to attack in June 1967.
Jordan subsequently joined in and all the Arab nations lost in battle.

There is no "occupation" of the West Bank since Jordan was not the internationally recognized sovereign ruler preceeding the 1967 war.

Similarly, settlements are not "illegal". That is just another commonly sung slogan that has no basis under International Law despite what state leaders say. Their statements have more to do with Arab/Muslim political, economic and terrorist threats than anything else.

Robert,

Many states support the Palestinians, including Israel.

Israel treats the Palestinians better than any Arab country.

The EU also supports Israel and is an ally.

Not every resident of a country agrees with the statements of their leaders however they are (usually) elected by the population and you have to take what you get. Because some leaders in the EU have to make "politically correct" comments and gestures, not everyone is patial to those opinions. Europe is not an oppressive dictatorship subjecting its residents to thought control......yet.

I reject that the Palestinians have any valid claim to the land. The Jews have verifiably been there for thousands of years. The Arabs are the invaders. Nonetheless, Israel has offered them land and offered them peace time and time again. They have always refused. There real agenda is to wipe out the Jews by whatever means they can.

Israel gave them Gaza and what happened? They raped the land and dug up the pipes to make kassam rockets to fire at Israeli citizens. They turned Gaza into a highly armed sewer and Islamic terrorists took it over by force.

Is this the "peace" you seek in the West Bank and in Israel's capital, Jerusalem? It is no wonder that all surrounding countries keep Palestinians penned up in camps. The hatred, racism, and lies of Islam are just too inbred into these people for peace to have any chance. Like any country, the best Israel can do now is to contain them. The rest of the world will prosper, while the warlike tribes of Palestinians will just suffer in camps waiting for their next target.

Some Palestinians who manage to claw there way out of the 7th century will escape and become human beings. The rest have little hope.

Robert

" I can assure you that the EU and most developed nations support Palestine"

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

ask Angela Merkel, Berluskoni, or Sarkozy whether they support "Palestine" (what is that, there is no such country).

You are dreaming

So, Robert, you now claim to speak for the EU and most developed nations? I believe in psychiatric circles this is known as delusions of grandeur. You and your terrorist supporting buddies should seek help.

From my reading and widespread news reporting, the supporters of Palestinians tend to be Muslims, terrorist supporters and anarchists. Those who support the rule of law tend to support Israel.

The Palestinians are saying, "Give us your land or we'll blow up the school busses your children ride in." The Israeli's are saying, "Who are these criminals that want to steal our land and kill our children?"

Angel,

It appears you fail to understand the obvious.

As well you fail to even read the posted answers to your questions. So I'll repeat my answers from several days ago.

You ask what does it take to bring lasting peace to the ME??

Good question !!!!

How about this for starters"

1)First and foremost-before anything else can happen– The Palestinians need to resolve their internal leadership issues and decide who it is that represents them, who is authorized to speak for them, who is authorized to run their government institutions and social programs.

Until this reconciliation is made-nothing with respect to the situation of the Palestinians has a hope of changing.

2) Muslims need to stop killing other Muslims because they don't follow the "correct" form of Islam. If the Muslim communities cannot live with one another and accept their varied views of Islam- there will never be peace in the ME

3) After the Palestinians have settled their internal issues- they need to agree to negotiating the final status issues with Israel. Israel has once again-reconfirmed their willingness to restart negotiations. But again today, Hamas, Fatah, and the rest of the pack have all rejected the offer. So–it appears the ball is squarely in the Palestinians court-they need to decide if they are willing to play ball !!!

4) the rest of the Arab world needs to come to grips with reality and accept the fact that Israel is fully recognized sovereign state of the modern world and respect her presence.

But it's quite clear–nothing will change until the Palestinians learn to live and agree amongst themselves-nothing!

But Angel-– since you appear to be a brand new participant on the blog-– I'll overlook the fact that you haven't seen these exact comments posted by me in the past !!!!

Robert,

As a European, I can assure you that we don't all share the same views of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict as you.

So you need not attempt to speak as if you are the single voice of authority and perspective as all Europeans.

If you can't see that there are extreme prejudices on both sides of this conflict, you must be living a cave somewhere.

But yes, there is significant support for the Palestinians-– but little or none outside the Arab world for their tactics of violence, hatred, murder and terrorist activities. The Palestinians will need to rid themselves of this stigma before they can achieve their goal of statehood.

Shame,

You said-"If Israel agreed to withdraw to its 1967 borders and end its illegal occupation of Arabic land, this crises will end."

You are kidding, right ????

What on earth makes you believe that the 1967 borders are any more acceptable to the Palestinians today than the original 1948 borders were in 1948???

Did the Palestinians finally wake up after 62 years and realize they can't drive the Israelis into the sea??

Did they finally wake up and realize they will need to live next door to the Israelis??

I don't hear any of the Palestinians saying that !!!!

Why do you believe it ???

What I see is the many faces of the Palestinians murdering each other and arguing amongst themselves and an acute dysfunctional society which is totally incapable establishing a government, social services, infrastructure or any basic institutions needed to adequately support their society.

Why would think for a minute that Israels retreat to 1967 borders solve conflict between the many factions of the Palestinians??

You're just one more example of someone who thinks all the worlds problems are caused a single sovereign nation with a population the size of New Jersey !!

And you want to talk about "prejudices" !!!!!

What a hoot !!!!

Filipe, your pro Israeli blogs express enough hatred to fuel the middle east crises for another hundred years. Please try to calm down and be objective. Be part of the solution not part of the problem.

Palestine was divided to make room for Israel. The division was handled by external powers. Filipe the wise, please tell me of another country which has been divided by external powers without putting up resistance. It is the right of all people to resist foreign interference in their country. Palestinian resistance is therefore a civil right.

If anybody tried to divide Israel and create a new state within Israel, the Jews would resist. Why should Palestinians be any different? Palestine was divided by western powers to create Israel. Palestine has every right to resist and protect what was once their land.

If Israel does not wish to receive resistance, it must share the land and resources equally. When Israel continues to expand illegal settlements and continues with military occupation, Israel fails to express a wish for peace.

Angel,

The British Mandate was established with the responsibility of establishing a homeland for the Jews.
Arab nationalism arose as a reaction to the 'horrific' idea that Jews may regain their ancient homeland.
Mandatory Palestine was subsequently divided to make room for Jordan, a reward for the Arabian Hashemite family.
Arab terror scared the British into repeatedly giving in to Arab demands until eventually the remaining land intended to be a Jewish homeland was under proposal to be divided further to create yet another Arab state,

But guess what? That was still not enough so the Arabs chose to reject the proposal and destroy the Jewish state so they could get the lot.
They failed, as did their subsequent military efforts, so now they have turned to disinformation as a tool to fool those who have little idea about the conflict.

There is no "occupation".
Most settlements are not "illegal".
Settlements are not expanding beyond their legal boundaries.

Israel has shown many times that she is willing to compromise.
for peace.
There has been little willing to compromise from the Arabs.

Angel,

Please go back and take some basic educational courses on world history !!

What country was divided to make room for Israel ???

There was never in the history of mankind a sovereign nation on the land known a Judea/Samaria prior to the creation of the State of Israel-never.

Palestine was never a nation ! Never had borders! Never had a government. In all of history the land was a province or territory ruled by outsiders- for thousands of years.

Palestine is a Roman name given to the ancient land of Judea by the Roman Emperor Hadrian when he conquered the land and exiled the Jews.

So enough with your nonsense about the land being divided to make room for Israel !!!! What a joke !!!!

The land was divided to make room for the Arabs-– the immigrants from the Arabian Peninsula who adopted the name "Palestinians" to describe themselves in the early 20th century. Until then-no group of people on the face of the planet called themselves Palestinians. In fact, in the early 20th century, both the Jews and the Arabs who lived in British Mandate Palestine called themselves "Palestinians". It wasn't until the creation of the State of Israel that the Jews began to refer to themselves as Israelis!!!

Wow--what concept !!!

But you know what-- British Mandate Palestine also yielded provided for the creation Jordan, whose majority population call themselves Palestinians-- but I don't see you or anyone else whining about that!!!

But since you are so hung up on the UN and and their authority to govern and implement rulings which the sovereign nations of the world should acknowledge, recognize and abide by-– you shouldn't have any issue or concerns with the fact that it was the UN General Assembly which partitioned British Mandate Palestine and gave birth to Jordan, Israel and The Palestinian Territories.

It's hardly any one's fault except for the local Arab population that a Sovereign Arab State was not realized at the exact same moment as the birth of Israel.

But the poor Palestinians can resist all they care t against the Israeli military-- but line they cross on a daily basis is that they direct their indiscriminate violence and attacks at the Israeli civilian population.

This is not, never has been and never will be acceptable in modern society.

The Palestinians are fully aware of what the world community expects of them in order to gain recognition ans Statehood-- they are simply too dysfunctional and incompetent to do what they need to do!!!

If you view my comments as hatred-- you're flat out wrong !!! I just happen be blunt and to the point. I don't hate Arabs, I don't hate Palestinians. I live in a community that is 25-30% of Arab descent. If I my views of the Arab world is as you perceive them to be-- I wouldn't live where I do!

Miriam and Filipe your words are total BS. There were people living in Palestine before the west created Israel. Those people have every right to defend their homes from foreign intervention i.e. the creation of Israel.

Example, if we decide today that Israel should also be given the land of Texas. Texans should be forced out their homes to allow any Jew from anywhere in the world to take over. Texans should leave without a fight. Texans should agree to the terms and conditions of the Jews and make peace with those who rob their land.

Filipe and Miriam hahahahaha. Are you competing with each other i.e. who can tell the most BS in one blog!!

I know what your BS answer will be, so let me save you the trouble.
2000 years ago there were Jews in Palistine. Texas has no cultural jewish heritage

hahahaha lets turn the clock back 2000 years just for you! Everybody get out of Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, Argentina, Brazil, North Africa, South Africa. Lets pretend nothing happened in the last 2000 years so the Jews can have Israel. Lets pretend nobody lived in Israel before the European immigrants invaded in 1947

hahahahah If you can defend the history of Israel then you can defend any BS that enters your imagination. But this just means you are mad!!!

Darren,

Yes, Jews had been living in the Holyland long before any Roman came and called the province Palestina.

Many remained despite repeated massacres and expulsions throughout the following 2000 years.

Nobody had to leave Israel when it was recreated.
Those non-Jews who remained and weren't fooled by Arab propaganda still live in Israel with all the rights that any Israeli has.

Darren

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Darren,

Well, first off- WTF are you you to decide that the Republic of Texas, one of the 50 States of the US should be given to Israel???

Please clarify who this "WE" is in your analogy !!

Sorry to disappoint you with my response that did not coincide with your anticipated answer !!!

Secondly, do you really think that the Israelites never inhabited the land Israel in ancient times??

Think about it -we are talking about a piece of land once known as Judea, right ??? You know Judeu !!?? The word for Jew in Portuguese is Judeu!!! Do you happen to see any connection there??

But that's OK-- Just go ahead and proceed to explain why you think the UN General Assembly did not have the right to partition British Mandate Palestine and give birth to Jordan, the State of Israel and an Arab state for the Palestinians???-Which they rejected-of course!!!

Your dispute of their authority not only claims illegitimacy to Israel, but to Jordan as well. Yet I don't hear anyone in the world making claims that Jordan is not a legitimate sovereign nation!

Can you please explain this??

But to take it one step further-WTF does Texas or the US or any of the countries and territories of the world that modern day Europeans colonized and presently inhabit have to do with the Israeli claim to their ancient homeland.

Does the white European settler have ancient ancestral rights to North America?? -Absolutely not !!!

South Africa? Absolutely not!!!!
South America ?? Absolutely not !!!
Anywhere in Africa?? Absolutely not!!!

The colonization of the world by the European countries has no relevance on the issues of middle east-- nor does it provide any justification for what is going on in the middle east.

As far as I'm concerned--the entire continental North America was obtained through illegal means and methods from the rightful and legitimate owners- the various tribes of indigenous Native Americans and those who call themselves in modern time Mexicanos.

The rest of those who occupy this land are nothing more that squatters on stolen territory!

The dispute over Jerusalem is most hard obstacle for ME peace. Let's give a brief look, what a solution forsaw the UN general assembly in its Partition plan:
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"United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 November 29, 1947
...
C. THE CITY OF JERUSALEM
The boundaries of the City of Jerusalem are as defined in the recommendations on the City of Jerusalem. (See Part III, section B, below).
Part III. – City of Jerusalem(5)
A. SPECIAL REGIME
The City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations. The Trusteeship Council shall be designated to discharge the responsibilities of the Administering Authority on behalf of the United Nations.
B. BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY
The City of Jerusalem shall include the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns, the most eastern of which shall be Abu Dis; the most southern, Bethlehem; the most western, 'Ein Karim (including also the built-up area of Motsa); and the most northern Shu'fat, as indicated on the attached sketch-map (annex B).
...
D. DURATION OF THE SPECIAL REGIME
The Statute elaborated by the Trusteeship Council the aforementioned principles shall come into force not later than 1 October 1948. It shall remain in force in the first instance for a period of ten years, unless the Trusteeship Council finds it necessary to undertake a re-examination of these provisions at an earlier date. After the expiration of this period the whole scheme shall be subject to examination by the Trusteeship Council in the light of experience acquired with its functioning. The residents the City shall be then free to express by means of a referendum their wishes as to possible modifications of regime of the City."
more...
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Thus, despite of amendments, introduced by historic events, the main points of this plan remain actual. The boundaries of modern Jerusalem remain approximately the same, excluding Bethlehem, which turned separate town.
The planned intl administration was never implemented, instead the Arabs and Jews divided the city in 1948, then Israel included Eastern Jerusalem into united city. Actually, this way the 181 UNGA resolution was implemented by almost 100%. The last step which may acomplish the realisation of 181 resolution provisions, is to hold formal referendum. The residents of WHOLE Jerusalem should express their wishes "as to possible modifications of regime of the city".
Thus, let's perform such referendum now. This way the dispute will be decisively resolved in most legal manner.